diff --git a/lib/Doctrine/Record.php b/lib/Doctrine/Record.php
index 279b6edaa..955cd2b45 100644
--- a/lib/Doctrine/Record.php
+++ b/lib/Doctrine/Record.php
@@ -126,13 +126,14 @@ abstract class Doctrine_Record extends Doctrine_Access implements Countable, Ite
      *                                         open connections
      * @throws Doctrine_Record_Exception       if the cleanData operation fails somehow
      */
-    public function __construct($table = null, $isNewEntry = false) {
+    public function __construct($table = null) {
         if(isset($table) && $table instanceof Doctrine_Table) {
             $this->_table = $table;
+            $exists  = ( ! $this->_table->isNewEntry());
         } else {
             $this->_table = Doctrine_Manager::getInstance()->getCurrentConnection()->getTable(get_class($this));
+            $exists  = false;
         }
-        $exists = !$isNewEntry;
 
         // Check if the current connection has the records table in its registry
         // If not this record is only used for creating table definition and setting up
diff --git a/lib/Doctrine/Table.php b/lib/Doctrine/Table.php
index ae41e40e3..f34c3f4f2 100644
--- a/lib/Doctrine/Table.php
+++ b/lib/Doctrine/Table.php
@@ -31,6 +31,10 @@
  * @version     1.0 alpha
  */
 class Doctrine_Table extends Doctrine_Configurable implements Countable {
+    /**
+     * @var boolean $isNewEntry                         whether ot not this table created a new record or not, used only internally
+     */
+    private $isNewEntry       = false;
     /**
      * @var array $data                                 temporary data which is then loaded into Doctrine_Record::$data
      */
@@ -757,7 +761,9 @@ class Doctrine_Table extends Doctrine_Configurable implements Countable {
      */
     public function create(array $array = array()) {
         $this->data         = $array;
-        $record = new $this->options['name']($this, true);
+        $this->isNewEntry   = true;
+        $record = new $this->options['name']($this);
+        $this->isNewEntry   = false;
         $this->data         = array();
         return $record;
     }
@@ -1102,6 +1108,14 @@ class Doctrine_Table extends Doctrine_Configurable implements Countable {
         $data = $stmt->fetch(PDO::FETCH_NUM);
         return isset($data[0])?$data[0]:1;
     }
+    /**
+     * return whether or not a newly created object is new or not
+     *
+     * @return boolean
+     */
+    final public function isNewEntry() {
+        return $this->isNewEntry;
+    }
     /**
      * returns simple cached query
      *